I don’t know where games are in their lifecycle. I almost don’t care. Um, I’m having so much fun playing them and so much fun making them, um, that it doesn’t really matter to me. One thing I think about a lot is that there is, I, I don’t have any real opinion on the games as art, um, uh, debate or anything like that. Um, but when I think about like, uh, jazz music, which is something I, you know, I had to study in school to learn about, right? Like, I, I took a class about jazz music where I was, you know. I, I was a drummer, uh, in high school and I was in a jazz band. Um, but to really get to the history, you know, when I was in college I learned a lot about jazz music, you know, basically in school. And, you know, when I had to go see jazz concerts like I would go to Lincoln Center, right? And that’s what happens to entertainment. Like, entertainment retires to be art. Um, and so, I would hope that, you know, if you do want games to be art that you, that you also at least hope that this stuff stays pervasive.
